Why are these so inexpensive?

"Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout)
11/10/2016 at 09:40 • Filed to: What

2013 Genesis R Spec 2.0, $17k, 16k miles, clean CarFax with 1 owner

DISCUSSION (29)

S65 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:41

Maybe they hold their value well or something, was there supposed to be a link or something?

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:45

Probably because they got a lot of luke-warm reviews. Pretty quick, fairly nice car, but the chassis and handling don’t feel like the got quite sorted out; this seemed to be the resounding opinion on them. Of course we know auto journalists are often a fickle and not always the best informed group.

Seems like a pretty solid deal to me. An FR-S/BRZ of the same year and price would have 3x the miles.

LongbowMkII > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:46

nobody wants a used hyundai genesis.

fourvalleys > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
11/10/2016 at 09:46

In 2013, the R-Spec came without cruise control, for some reason.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:47

That price seems pretty low to me. But they aren’t going to hold their value until Hyundai’s reputation improves among the vast populace that still views Hyundai as making small crapcans. We know that hasn’t been true for a while now, but most people I know that aren’t car folks have a seriously negative impression of Hyundai.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > fourvalleys
11/10/2016 at 09:54

Weird.

Speed > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:56

I’ve actually looked pretty hard into these. I realize people say they aren’t the best thing since yoga pants, but the price point and warranty are very compelling.

jimz > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:57

Because as far as “sporty” cars go, it’s basically purgatory.

B/Xmrrmvr > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 09:57

Because people think like Donald Trump when it comes to Korean cars.

PS9 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 10:06

350HP, but they pull timing during acceleration. It should be somewhere between a V6 mustang and a 5.0, but it feels slower than that because of the timing thing. Also being balls deep in used G37s for slightly less than that doesn’t help.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 10:07

Because people aren’t ready to admit that Hyundai make a good car.

Textured Soy Protein > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
11/10/2016 at 10:17

I test drove one of these and it felt decidedly un-sporty. Not just like “oh this is a sports car that could use a little refining,” more like “this feels like driving a regular car that happens to be shaped like a sports car.” I’m sure they could be made to drive nicely but out of the box they’re pretty boring.

fourvalleys > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
11/10/2016 at 10:19

The lower engine/trim models had it, but it was taken off the R-spec. I think the module was like $350, plus installation.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 10:20

That curvy little H badge. A lot of people still don’t trust it.

E90M3 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 10:23

Kinja'd!!!

Why buy a Hyundai when you can have a BMW ? The BMW even comes with a BMW badge, which is worth it’s weight in myrrh .

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > fourvalleys
11/10/2016 at 10:36

Damn. That’s dumb.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Textured Soy Protein
11/10/2016 at 10:37

Yep, sounds about right from what I’ve read. I’d be curious to drive one, but having an engaging chassis/handling is far more important than the power. Which I think is why the Toyobaru, despite power complaints, seemed to be received better than the Genesis Coupe.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 10:38

Well they weren’t that expensive to begin with. And consider as well that they’re not exactly flawless:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/hyundai/genesis_coupe/#r135145

And while the handling is okay, it’s not as good as something like a BRZ/FRS apparently.

And consider as well that this is competing with V6 Mustangs that have ~90HP more in stock form.

Boosted2k - I Make Videos and Put Them on YouTube > fourvalleys
11/10/2016 at 10:46

Who needs cruise when you’re banging gears in your R-Spec BRO!

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
11/10/2016 at 11:55

I hadn’t looked at the specs or reviews of these much, but it seems like a stretch to ask it to compete with the FRS/BRZ, it’s wheelbase is 10 inches longer and it weighs a lot more. Seems more like a poor mans Infiniti G37 coupe, to which its size, wheelbase and weight are much more similar.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle
11/10/2016 at 11:59

In a direct numbers comparison, yeah it’s not the same category. But in the real world buying situation, someone looking for a RWD “sports” coupe around $20k, the Genesis and FR-S/BRZ are direct competitors. I’ve seen lots of comparisons of the two for people looking to get an affordable sports car.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
11/10/2016 at 12:08

In my mind I thought they were closer, and could see how people could cross shop them. I wasn’t trying to correct you as much as just share information about why they offer different driving experiences.

wiffleballtony > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 13:14

I’ve heard the turbo lag is terribad.

wiffleballtony > PS9
11/10/2016 at 13:15

I think you’re referring to the 3.8, this is a 2.0T.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 13:55

Because Hyundai = crap

The Coupe R-Spec should have had the Sedan R-Spec’s 5.0L V8

NJAnon > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 19:53

That price isn’t the range where I live. I wish it was inexpensive.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > NJAnon
11/10/2016 at 21:14

I found that about 50 miles from my house. None of the ones in NJ were worth exploring

NJAnon > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/10/2016 at 22:52

I dont live in new jersey (sorry if my screenname is misleading :P) but even if a Genesis is $15-$17,000 Id question the state of the wear and tear (or if it was a dealer trade). If im not mistaken the track edition has some expensive brakes

Nauraushaun > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
11/11/2016 at 04:19

I’d say heritage, or lack thereof. Hyundai weren’t known for sports cars then and they certainly aren’t now. New manufacturers, or new niches from existing ones, depreciate fast.